In this episode, Drew Manning sits down with Ramsey Bergeron, a Certified Leadership and Behavioral Health Coach, Motivational Speaker, and Mindset Coach. Drew and Ramsey discuss the serendipitous way they met on a flight and dive deep into topics such as the power of changing your perspective, understanding and managing stress reactions, and the importance of self-awareness. Ramsey shares insights from his book, “Cake on the Floor,” and explains the significance of the Energy Leadership Index Assessment in helping individuals and organizations understand their default responses to stress. This episode is packed with practical advice on personal growth, mindset shifts, and embracing the journey towards becoming your best self.




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• [00:00] Intro

• [00:07] Meeting Ramsey Bergeron on a plane

• [06:13] Ramsey’s background and his journey from personal training to mindset coaching

• [12:58] Discussing Ramsey’s book “Cake on the Floor”

• [20:40] Understanding anabolic vs. catabolic energy

• [24:20] Importance of self-awareness and managing stress

• [30:17] Energy Leadership Index Assessment and its impact

• [45:10] Aligning actions with values for personal growth

• [55:02] Final thoughts and where to find Ramsey’s book and assessment


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