What’s up everyone. Welcome to the fit to fat, to fit experience podcast. That’s me, your host drew Manning. Welcome to episode 83. Today. I interview a good friend of mine, Angela Martindale. I met her on, um, a local news station up here in salt Lake. She was on this new segment along with me, and they were talking about bowling and I was listening to her story before I went on the air and I was blown away at it. And, um, I, uh, I, she also worked in the health and fitness industry was like a celebrity trainer. And I’m like, man, I gotta meet this girl. Cause, um, you know, Utah’s a small place if you’ve now, if you’re not from here, I’m like, how do I not know her already? Anyways, we get to know each other. And I’m like, I got to have you on the podcast.

So Angela Martin dos, she’s the creator of the ultimate transformation lifestyle series, a creator of meals that transformed.com. And she graduated from the school of integrative nutrition in New York city. And she’s traveled the world as an international fitness expert. Um, she holds current certifications from the American council on exercise ACE, right as a personal trainer and lifestyle and weight and management consultants. She holds a certification from NASM. Additionally, she is certified through yoga fit as a yoga instructor and national trainer. She’s also worked with celebrity fitness trainers or as a celebrity fitness trainer and nutritionist to Stephanie McMahon who? Yes, she is the daughter of WWE owner, Vince McMahon and her spouse, triple H as well as Katie Kirk and Jimmy buffet. And she’s a public speaker throughout the world. Um, the cool thing about her is her interesting story. If she was born with this, um, birthmark all over her face and she grew up being bullied. And um, you know, now if you saw a picture of her, if you Google Angela Martindale, you wouldn’t even be able to tell us she has it. And she talks about how she covers up, covers that up. But she also, once a week will go out without makeup, right? Um, she’s not ashamed and she grew up being bullied and that’s just made her stronger. So you gotta listen to her story. It’s incredible. We also dive into nutrition philosophies a little bit, and some of her philosophies on exercise as well.

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Drew. Thanks so much for having me.

It’s my pleasure. I’m actually really happy to have you on and I’m happy that we finally made it happen. Cause it seems like we met what two months ago. We’re just now. Yeah. We’re just now getting around to recording this episode. So that’s true. Thank you so much for coming on. Um, okay. So let me give the listeners a little bit of background of how we met. We met on a local TV station here in Utah called channel two K UTV, uh, fresh livings and afternoon show. And, um, you know, I see this tall blonde lady come in and, and I think they were talking to you about bullying, right? Yes. Yeah. And then you shared your story about bullying, which we’ll get into, and then you, you know, you talked about how you, um, you know, we’re like the celebrity trainer and you know, you’re in the health and fitness industry. I’m like, how do I not know this person? We live in the same state? It’s not that big of a state, but, um, let’s start with the bullying thing. I think, I think, I think that was super interesting. Could you talk about that and then let’s talk about your origin story of how you got to where you are today.

Yeah, well really both of them kind of intertwined, right? I think that sometimes when we’re hurt, we find purpose in life. And so, um, that’s exactly what happened to me. I was born with a birthmark and it covers the entirety of my face. It’s in my, inside my ears, down my throat. It goes all the way through my mouth. And, um, you know, when I was at home, my family and my sisters and my aunts and my uncles and grandparents, they just treated me like everyone else. I was not treated any differently. So I didn’t know any different. Right. I knew I looked different, but I wasn’t treated differently. And so then you step out into the world worlds, right? Kids are mean, adults are mean, teachers don’t know what to say or how to act. You know, um, doctors knew nothing about port wine stains and birthmarks.

Um, even to this day, the, the research is very limited. And so, um, it, it became a real bullying cesspool for me. And so as I went through school, um, I had to learn how to be strong and love the skin that I’m in because it’s the only skin I’ve got. And so, you know, my parents were very strong and they just, you know, told me how beautiful I was and that Jesus kissed me more than anyone else. And that, that my face was red. And so I, you know, so I was really raised to be strong and that it didn’t matter what I looked like or who I was just that I was strong inside. And, and that I was nice to others that I had compassion and that I was nice to others. And so, um, you know, my mom tells me a story of when I was four years old and, um, a little girl pointed at me and said, mommy, look, she’s so ugly.

And I went over and asked her if, if I could play with her. And that was just how my parents raised me. And so, um, I really think that it’s so important to use nutrition and exercise as a way to empower yourself and how to find confidence. I think sometimes we go towards, you know, drugs, alcohol, um, you know, so many other, uh, we can abuse so many other things, right. When we’re feeling sad or feeling, uh, feeling abused ourselves. And I think that nutrition and wellness and fitness really gave me the confidence to stay strong and stand strong. And, and, um, and so that’s what I was talking about that day. And it’s really my mission.

Yeah. So I’m looking at you, you can’t tell that there’s any kind of birth Mark, can you explain, you know, that, like what you said, it’s just a random act. There’s no genetic disorders, not like no one in your family had, it was just you. Right. And then how you can’t even notice it that, like how do you cover it up or

No, it’s a great question. Yeah. It’s a great question. Um, I have played with makeup since I was, um, in junior high and that was the first time that my parents allowed me to wear makeup at school. I couldn’t wear makeup during my elementary years. And, um, so I started exploring with makeup when I got into my junior high years and then in, through high school and then, um, becoming a fitness model and being in Hollywood and all over New York. And, you know, being in that industry, I really got trained by the best of how to use makeup. And so that’s what I do. I just cover it with makeup and it’s not because I’m ashamed of it. It’s because I find sometimes that people don’t take me seriously if I don’t wear makeup. And I know that that sounds really weird, but they’re always looking and feeling sad or, or they’re feeling sorry for me when, when, you know, it’s, it’s very strange drew.

I go out at least once a week, I refuse to wear makeup. So like, I’ll go run errands, I’ll go to the grocery store, I’ll go to TJ max or whatever. And it’s so funny how people like, they just like, don’t even know what to say when they see me or recognize me. Right. And, and for me, you know, it’s just like, it’s just, it’s just who I am. And so I try really hard to stay humble and to make sure that, you know, I’m, I’m just very compassionate and, and open with who I am,

Have other people with this same birth Mark reached out to about tips or tricks that you do. Like have you put something out there to assist those with the makeup tips, for example, of how to cover it up?

You know, I speak regularly for the Sturge Weber foundation. And, um, that was something that I had never even known about until a woman walked up to me one day in, in LA actually. And, um, we were talking and her little girl had a port wine stain, and I looked at her and I said, I have one just like that. And the mother took me aside and was like, you need to be talking to girls and boys about feeling good in the skin you’re in. And so, um, she told me of the surge Weber foundation. And so I speak to them quite frequently. And, um, I’ve actually trying to really promote Estee Lauder because it is a makeup that I, that I use. So I’ll just use this as a platform that, you know, I I’ve been really, I’ve always reached out to them to try to help, you know, girls understand how to use their makeup, because it’s the only makeup that I’ve found that stays on your face that, you know, I can work out with it. I can swim, I can, I can sleep in it. If I, if I feel like I need to or want to, and it stays in place, it’s a beautiful finish. And so, yeah, I do, I do teach all those things

That is remarkable. And so what are some of the biggest lessons you learned, like having, having been bullied? I’m sure you’re, even though you were strong, you were raised to be strong by your parents. I’m sure there must’ve been some moments that not, maybe not scourge you, but just kind of, I don’t know, maybe broke you down a little bit. What are some of the biggest lessons you’ve learned from going through that that’s made you a better person human nowadays.

Yeah. I think that that’s such a great question and yes, I have been broken down. Absolutely. I think I’m probably one of the biggest things in my life was, you know, starting to date. Right. You just never know how a boy is going to respond. You know, if you have a moment where he sees you one way and then, you know, it’s kind of like when we think that we’re supposed to be perfect as women and we’re not, you know, and we think that the guys want us to be perfect. Right. And when you wash off that makeup or you take off that bra that might have some padding in it, or, you know, you take off the jeans, the skinny jeans that covers up everything and you go, ah, you know, this is who I am. I think for me, that was huge for me.

I had to work through that. Right. I had to work through this is who I am. And if you love me, then you’ll love me. Right. And, um, and so I think that that was a huge lesson for me. I, I absolutely went through, you know, even being abused in a relationship and really having to find my strength of look, I am perfect. And I’m amazing and I’m strong and I’m powerful and it’s okay if you don’t like me. Right. And so, yeah, I definitely have found my strength over the years of just loving who I am.

That’s so powerful. I think this is so important for so many women to hear because so many women struggle with it. And if at the end of the day, they don’t have the birth Mark that you had. Right. They they’re complaining about little small things here and there, but to them, it’s a huge issue. And there is this pressure from society that women need to be the certain thing, which is totally unnecessary. And so many women grow up just never feeling good enough, never feeling beautiful enough. And it’s, I don’t know. I would say it’s like almost an epidemic and it scares me cause I have two little girls and I’m trying to raise them to be comfortable in their own body, their own skin, no matter what they look like that to teach them that they are more, there’s more to them than just what their body looks like. Right. And I know men get that too, but I think women just it’s harder for them.

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Because the, the media really, you know, both that, right. You have so many images in media, social media that boast the perfect body or the perfect butt or the perfect face or the perfect hair or the perfect eyes or whatever it might be. Right. And, and nobody’s perfect. You know, I was, I’ve been in the modeling world for a long time. And let me tell you, nobody’s perfect in Hollywood, nobody’s perfect in the modeling world, I was even a fitness competitor and I’m not perfect. You know, I strived really hard to, to walk on stage. Beautiful. But, um, you know, when you walk off stage, that’s it, you’re, you’re only that you’re only in that phase for that moment, literally, you know?

Yeah. So, so growing up then, um, when did you start getting into health and fitness? Was that something that you were passionate about as a kid or at what age did that kind of start, you know, appealing being appealing to you

Question? Um, I was always an athlete. I was a swimmer and a diver. Um, I was in gymnastics and so I was always an athlete, but really my, my really want for fitness and nutrition was when I became 17. I turned 17 and I could barely walk up a flight of stairs. My immune system had crashed because of all the antibiotics that in my childhood doctors gave me because they thought I was sick. And so I, I looked at my parents and said, look, the food that you’re feeding me is killing me. Literally, I can’t move. I can’t walk. I can’t study. And school was really important to me. Um, my, my academic career was really important to me. And so, um, I started eliminating things from my diet and I had always worked out. So that was really never something that I had to like start up.

I had worked out, you know, three to five hours a day with my diving and swimming and, and gymnastics. So, so getting me to work out, wasn’t the, wasn’t the hard part. It was the nutrition, you know, I’d work out for three hours a day and then come home. And my mom would have, you know, chocolate chip cookies and a glass of milk for me. And that was not working. You know, she did the best that she could, you know, my parents did the best that they could, but for me, that didn’t work. And that just goes to show that everyone is different. You know, everyone needs a very specific plan for their fitness and wellness goals and nutrition goals and not, not everything works for everyone. And, you know, and so then that was really, my goal is, you know, why, why, if I take out these things out of my diet, does that work for me? But it doesn’t work for everyone else or, you know, it, it might work for some and not for others. And so, you know, fast forward 54,000 clinical hours later, I created a program that really works for, you know, for all of my clients.

Yeah. I thought that was so interesting. You said at 17 is when you went to your parents and said, well, you’re feeding me is not working because teenagers just want to eat whatever they, whenever they want you. Right. I mean, for the most part, you know, most teenagers aren’t saying, mom, I kind of want to eat this way or that way. Um, I think it’s, it’s, it’s mostly the opposite of where the parents are trying to get their kids to eat certain foods. But I like what you said, your parents did the best they could with what they had. And I, I see that too, in my parents who raised 11 kids trying to feed 11 kids alone is, I don’t know how you do that, but do that on a budget. Exactly. And on a budget too. And so, you know, shout out to all the parents out there that are doing the best they can, but, um, okay. So what kind of foods were you eating? You mentioned chocolate chip cookies and milk. What kind of other foods did you grow up on? And then what did you switch? What was the first thing you switched?

This is, this is going to sound a little oxymoron as well because in the summers I was raised on a farm with my grandmother. And so I ate really well, literally fresh eggs from the roosters and the chickens outside. We, you know, we milked our own cows. We literally, you know, we were farmers, I grew my own food tomatoes out of the garden, raspberry strawberries, you know, everything was fresh greens, everything was, but then my mother was taken to the East side, you know, when she met my dad and then I was, my mother never cooked. And so I was fed, you know, TV dinners, fast food, milk, you know, steak and potatoes, maybe once a week. And, and so everything was out of a can, everything was out of a box. And, um, that just didn’t work.

Yeah. And then, so what did you, what was the first thing you switched when you said, when you said you want to change your nutrition? What, what were the first changes you made

Question? I took milk and gluten out of my diet completely. I had asthma horribly and allergies horribly. Hence why doctors thought I was sick all the time, but most of the time I just had allergies. And so they would see my throat really sore and red, but didn’t realize that it was mostly my birthmark. Right. And so, you know, looking down my throat and inside my ears. Oh yeah, she’s got strep throat when normally, or usually it was just allergies. And so, um, I, I completely eliminated milk and milk products and, um, cheese and then gluten from my diet. And

Was that based off anything or was that just, was that just, I think I should eliminate this,

You know, for me. Yeah, no, it’s a great question. At 17, right there. Wasn’t at my age, maybe it’s your age. There was no internet at that time. So, you know, I actually took a health class and, and she wanted me, my health teacher said, I want you to research milk. And so I started researching milk and, and at that time that was, you know, um, big corporations were taking over our farming practices and, um, you know, it wasn’t the best thing for us and it was, it definitely, wasn’t the best thing for me. I had asthma and allergies horribly and the meat immediately when I took that out of my diet, I had no more asthma. I’ve not had an asthma attack since I was 17 years old. I have, I rarely, rarely get allergies. And, um, I, I mean, I’ve got healthy. I was able to climb up the stairs again. I was able to get back to my fitness and wellness career and became a personal trainer and then a wellness coach and then a nutritionist ultimately.

Yep. And so where did you go to college and what did you study?

Yeah, I, um, I studied, uh, exercise science, kinesiology, and biomechanics. And then I went to the school of integrative nutrition in New York. And then I did many different certifications. Well, coach, coach, you, and, and then works with clients personally. Um, I worked in the modeling agency for a long or in the modeling industry for a long time. Uh, in New York, taught girls how to walk and how to have poise and confidence. And, um, and then I created my own practice. I had my own practice in New York and in LA and then ultimately in, in salt Lake city, Utah.

Yeah. Um, and then what was, okay, so maybe you kind of covered this, but so you knew you wanted to go into this industry right. From the time you change your nutrition. Right. And then you made it to college and studied all this, and then, and then you immediately started working in that field as soon as you’re done with college. Right. Like you knew this was the industry you wanted to be in and that’s what your first job or two was outside of college.

I did. Yeah. Well, I actually put myself through school as a personal trainer. I became a personal trainer when I was 18 years old and I put myself through school. I actually started my own business, um, with what I was doing. And, and that’s really ultimately where the ultimate transformation came from. I had a personal assisting business and I was training my clients and helping them with odd jobs and then teaching them nutrition. And I found that even when you did all of that, if you didn’t incorporate everything, the mind, body, and being, you know, component clients, weren’t getting the results that, that I thought that they could or would. Right. And so then obviously I moved to New York city and I, I took my education to another level. And then I created what I call the ultimate transformation. And so I helped clients from that point on, um, to really change everything about their lifestyle.

I think that’s so huge. Cause when I just kind of compare it to my story of, you know, our most personal trainers, they focus so much on the physical side of weight, loss or transformation. Okay. Let’s move more. Let’s work on your meal plans, let’s work on your workouts. Like that’s the most people think that’s the key. But in reality, if, if only that changes and the stress levels and their sleep is way off and their hormones are off. And, um, even on the spiritual side of things, like if it’s not, if it’s not all balanced, none of that means anything. It’s just going to be a quick little diet where they might lose some weight, but then it doesn’t last, it doesn’t become a lifestyle change. And that’s one of the biggest lessons lessons I learned from fits fed fit was how much of transformation is physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, all combined together. And so I think that’s awesome. You started doing that right away, um, in the, in the industry, um, you know, I don’t know how many years ago that was, we don’t need to talk about your age or anything.

It was 20 years ago. I’m fine saying it,

But that is so cool, but that is so cool. So cause someone, people in the industry do not focus on, on the mental, emotional, and spiritual side of things. It’s mostly, you know, 60 day meal plan or six day workout program. And so what made you think about that side of it, that side of transformation to include those things? And then what are those things that you include into these transformation programs?

Yeah, I, again, I, it comes down to, um, when I was 17 and sick as possibly could be, could not walk up a flight of stairs and my mind said, look, what you’re putting into your body is not good. You’re studying really hard. You’re pushing yourself and, and your self talk isn’t there. Right? And so to self-talk is a huge part of my program. You know, you have to tell yourself that you’re amazing, that you’re beautiful, that you are strong, that you’re powerful that you can do this. You have to be that best friend for yourself because nobody else is gonna do that for you. Right. We are people’s cheerleaders. You know, we are trainers and where people’s cheerleaders, but if they walk out the door and go, Oh my gosh, you know, I suck at this. I’m so bad. Or I, I can’t believe I did that.

Or if they beat themselves up, whatever we say to them is not going to penetrate unless they they’ve got that. Self-talk. So, number one, I really always talk about the, I am, you know, I am are the two most powerful words that you can say to yourself, good or bad, right? And when you focus on the powerful and the positive, you will manifest things in your life that you want. And so I had to start there. I was literally so sick in a bed, couldn’t even walk, you know, my body had broken down and stopped. And so I had to start mentally. I couldn’t, I could not allow myself to get broken down by that. I had to mentally focus on you’re going to get stronger. You can do this. You’re going to be fine. Right. And so that the mental part for me was what really started all of this.

And then also I think being bullying at a very young age, you know, hearing all that jibberish and all that, all that, all those negative thoughts coming in at me, I had to be the one who was strong enough to go. You don’t know who I am. You know, this is, this is who I am. And I think I’m pretty cool. You know, I think I’m pretty amazing. So, you know, so that self-talk had to be really strong. My voice had to be stronger than everyone else’s. And so that mental part came very young for me. You know, it was, it was a very young age for me. I think that people struggle with that, right. They go to that personal trainer, they go to the nutritionist and they change a few things and then they go, why, why is this not getting better? And for me, I always look at where are you talking to yourself? How are you implementing this every second of your day? You know, are you being consistent with your nutrition, your water, your, you know, your, your workouts, are you being consistent? And so I think for me that the, that was the biggest change, but also the biggest thing for me to teach.

Yeah. And it is something that’s so, so big and so important. And I wish I would’ve learned it years ago, but I just learned it, you know, the past couple of years and it’s changed my life completely. And now it’s hard to get people who are in their forties, fifties, sixties to change, you know, the, the way they talk to themselves. Cause they’ve been talking to themselves, you know, for decades the same way. And, and that’s how they were brought up to talk to themselves, you know, and it’s hard to break that cycle. It really is, but it’s so powerful. And I know at first it seems weird or corny for some people like it’s, you know, they’re like this sounds weird to talk to myself in the mirror or say things about myself, even if you don’t believe it at first, I think just getting it out there and saying it, whether or not you believe it right away. Isn’t important. It’s just physically saying those words out loud, which is, you know, there are studies that show the power of words, right. At the cellular level of talking to plants, talking to living things that makes a difference.

Absolutely. It puts out an energy that is different than a negative energy, right. So that energy will continue to manifest and go out into the world. And I know that sounds, you know, kind of hokey pokey, but it’s really true. You know, our energy is really powerful and we have to remember that we are powerful beings and that the more that we put out that path, that positive self-talk, the more is going to come back to us.

Yeah. What are some other, um, little not tricks, but, uh, things that you incorporate into these transformation programs on the mental, emotional, spiritual side that you see make a difference in people’s lives. Other than, you know, we’ll talk about nutrition exercise a little bit later, but yeah. On like these kinds of things.

Yeah. Um, again, it’s, it’s changing your thought process, right? Someone might, you know, have financial issues. Right. And so that gets them down. I mean, how many people do you know that, you know, are just drowning in debt and it is sucking all the energy out of them. Right. So I think that when I, when I take on a client, we look at all of those things, you know, are there things in your home that you could give away or clean out? Are they, are they taking a lot of your energy? Right. You know, I, I mean, all of us have probably watched hoarders, you know, I mean, imagine how much energy goes into all that stuff that is just sitting in a home. Right. Um, I think that it’s really important to always kind of clean out the closet, whether that be, you know, clothes, shoes, or clean out the closet of, you know, excess, um, energy and secrets or thoughts about yourself or thoughts about, uh, you know, a family member. I think that it’s really good to clean out the closet no matter what that metaphor means to you.

Yeah. And I, I looked on, um, on your website, one of your videos, that was a, I think it was you and your husband dancing. And like one of the tips was, you know, uh, you know, laugh and have fun, you know, dance or something like that with your loved ones and kind of be in the moment if you will. Right. And I thought that was so important. Sorry, you can talk to that, but I love that one too.

No, I love that drew. And thank you. You know, I think it’s so important that we connect with others. And, um, you know, I do have one video on my ultimate transformation series. That’s on my website meals that transform.com and it’s all free for anyone who wants to take it on right there, three to five minute videos that just give you little tidbits of what you can do in a week to change your life, to literally have ultimate transformation. And that is one, you know, I have, I have an amazing husband and a partner in my life, but we have dance parties and we one do that for cardio, but to, to just have fun and connect with each other. And so we’ll just turn on music on a Friday night and just dance in the living room or in the kitchen, or, you know, and, and it’s, and I don’t care if that’s two minutes with your kids or five minutes with your partner, but connect.

Right. I think that we need to connect together. And, and even though we’ve had a partner for a while, I think sometimes we forget that they need connection as well. And so that is huge in your transformation and to have that support system, you know, make sure that you’re telling your friends or your family or your partner, I really want to work on this. You know, I really need your support. I’m not going to ask for your help, but I need your support. So when I want to go do a workout at seven o’clock at night, and you might have to babysit the kids or be with the, with the children, you know, look, I really need your support here. Or, you know, for me personally, I’m trying my hardest, not to swear as much as I do. It’s a few bad habits. And for all those listeners out there, Angela has a trailer, trash mouth, and it’s terrible. And I really it’s like a huge goal of mine. And so I’ve asked my husband, you know, please help me just like, you know, notice it, you know, just even, you know, give me a little tap on the shoulder or tell me, Hey, you know, you’re working on that. Let’s use some other words, you know? So I think that it’s really important to invite your, you know, support system on your

Yeah. And I think that’s so important because I have so many people ask me like, you know what I do, if my spouse or significant other isn’t on board with this healthy lifestyle that I’m trying to live. Um, and like, you know, one of the worst things you can do is like put pressure on them and make them feel bad. Like, Hey, you need to do this. Like, you need to lose weight. You know, you, you shouldn’t really be eating that, those kinds of things. Instead, flip it on the other side and say, I need your support with it. Like, like have them be the helper, have them come save you and say, look, I need you to keep me accountable. You know, I’m not putting any pressure on you. I just, the pressure’s on me. I just want your help with this. Right. To support you in this lifestyle change. And then who knows you being the example might motivate them. They might see something that might be like, okay, I’m going to do this with you. Right. Instead of trying to push them. And then there was this more. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. And, and, you know, I’m sure that you have seen this just as much as I have where you do have those partners in your, in, in your client’s lives where they’re either not supportive or they push too hard, you know? And, and then it just pushes them away even further. Right. And look, everyone, everyone of your listeners, you have to remember that this is your own journey. This isn’t about your spouse. It’s not about your mother. It’s not about your father. It’s not about your kids. It’s about you. And you have to make that decision. And once you make a decision, be empowered to keep that consistency be empowered, to be that person that you want to be. You know, I always have the saying, be, do have, you know, be that person do what that person would do and you’ll have what that person has. Right. So if you’re looking at drew, you know, always on his great shot, you know, going, I wish I could do that. Well, you can write, you know, you just do what he does and teach, you know, be what he does and, and then you’ll have what he has. And so, you know, we all have to find a mentor in our lives, but you also have to look in the mirror and go, I’m going to do this, and I’m going to do this for myself. Nobody else.

Yeah. There’s a great book that I read recently called a, you are a badass by Jensen Sierra, and she talks about a lot of these things about, you know, putting it on paper and envisioning it. And you know, first thing in the morning, that’s what you, you look at are you, you write about, or you read same thing before you go to bed at night and it becomes a part of, you becomes part of your vision. So you can see it before it even happens. And then from there, you’re gonna start making the little tiny decisions and choices towards that goal. You know, whether it happens overnight or not that, you know, that’s up to the universe or whatever, but, you know, if you keep moving towards that direction, you believe in, it it’ll happen, right. If you have strong beliefs about it. But the problem is that a lot of us don’t believe in ourselves past a certain extent, but we can do remarkable things.

We can do hard things if we just believe. And so I know it sounds so easy, but it’s, you know, obviously it’s, it’s hard to stay committed because life will throw things at you to kind of derail you and drag you back down and humble you along the way, but you gotta stay strong. So I love all these things that you’re talking about. Um, the other thing that you mentioned that I wanted to touch on was relationships and how important that is, right? You could be eating perfectly, you could be working out, you could be getting eight hours of sleep every single night, but if you don’t have that relationship aspect of it where you are spending time to be with somebody and be in the moment with them and live, I think as humans, without that, especially in RJ and, and you know, the 21st century, we’re missing that human component of human interaction. It’s all on social media for the most part. And so I think that’s one thing that is lacking is that human connection that, um, kind of, kind of takes a back seat to a social media connection, if you will. And that’s why I think even people who might have the perfect body, tens of money, super successful, they’re not fulfilled. Right. And so I see that a lot too.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, look, I’ve been a single girl and, and I was great in single, right. But I think that it’s really great to have connection, whatever that is, maybe, you know, for me. And I talk about this in my ultimate transformation as well, just like, you know, find a friend, go to coffee, you know, connect with your girlfriends, your guy friends have something where you do connect and have that personal relationship. And it doesn’t necessarily have to be a loving partner. Right. But when you are whole, when you are whole, you are going to attract another whole person. And that’s really ultimately what I would love to see for everyone in a relationship is that you’ve attracted someone that’s whole, that’s great with, or without you, but that needs, you doesn’t necessarily have to have you, or, you know, has to control what you’re doing or, you know, that, that, that they’re supportive and that they’re loving.

And, um, you know, I think all of us can attest to, you know, really having certain relationships in our life where there’s too much drama or too much, you know, they’d weigh us down and that’s not what I’m talking about. I don’t think that we should keep those relationships in our lives. I think that we need to be strong enough to let go of things that don’t work for us. And that means either our actions, our self-talk or relationships in our lives that are not working for us. And then we’re able to open up and find that relationship, whether it be a friend, a girlfriend, boyfriend partner in our lives, then you’re open for it, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. I agree. 100%. Um, let’s shift gears a little bit. I kind of want to dive into nutrition a little bit here. Um, you know, you’ve been in this industry for so long, you’ve seen things come and go I’m sure. What, how has your nutrition philosophy evolved over the years versus maybe what you were taught in school to how it’s evolved to, you know, where it’s at today in 2017?

Yeah, I think that, that’s a great question, you know, and I will just state this and I say this to my clients and to people who listen to all of us, right. Nutrition is the most controversial subject you’ll ever have. It’s worse than religion and politics. You know, I can see something here I am and drew might say something completely different, right. So I think that for me, it comes from literally working with clients. I have 54,000 clinical hours with clients, like literally creating results. And I think that, you know, all the fundamentals are absolutely still the same, right? We all, I mean, I was eating organic food when I was younger. Right. Always eating from whole foods. Um, and then I think that for me, you know, fats have become a huge part of what I teach and I feel like it was always that way.

I always taught my clients to eat nuts and avocados and coconut oil and olive oils and you know, all of those things. And I know that you really promote fats as well, and it is absolutely essential for our mind body and being, um, I think the biggest thing that has really changed the way that I coach my clients is I now absolutely have to have work from my clients because just like you said, the endocrine system can change anything. Right. And it can, or it can keep us stuck. Right. But system is a huge part of how we see results in our lives and our attitudes and the way that we feel about our bodies, but also how our bodies change. And so I think, you know, just probably in the last 10 years, I’ve really promoted. Um, maybe, maybe about 10 years. Yeah. I’ve really promoted.

Look, we need to look at your blood work and we really need to see where your, where your supplements are, where your hormones are, where your endocrine system is telling us to go. And then I really focus on teaching clients, how to live a lifestyle, not a quick fix. I’ve never been a trainer or a nutritionist that like, you’re going to lose 10 pounds in 10 days with me. That is just not what I do. And so I’ve stayed really consistent with that philosophy that this is a lifestyle. And, you know, again, I had to become the student before I was the teacher. And I know that if I were to change my diet now and consistently go back to the habits that I had, I would not be in a good place. And so staying consistent and staying steadfast with my goals, you know, I, I still fit in the same pants that I wore 10 years ago.

And I still, you know, can wear a bathing suit and I still can feel good about, you know, laying out on a March day when it was 80 degrees yesterday, you know, and still feel good about that. Um, and I, and I want my clients to age well, right. We have to think about how we’re aging. Um, you know, everyone’s looking at what’s happening in this administration and, and what’s going on. We all have to take care of ourselves and know that we are going to age just like our grandparents and our, and our parents are right now. And how do you want to age? How do you want to live your life? Because we have so much more information now that we can be stronger. We can be the baby boomers of this generation that will be strong. And self-sufficient

Yeah. So how does, how exactly does your business work? Um, you know, you have meals at transform, it tells a little bit about your business model and how you serve your clients and what way that you serve your clients. Yeah.

Yeah. Thanks for asking. So I make fresh organic meals delivered right to your door. We are very specific to your needs and your preferences, but also your goals and what, what results you’re trying to achieve. So I have clients anywhere from, you know, cancer to diabetes, to, um, high blood pressure, low blood pressure to wanting to gain weight for a competition or, or wanting to gain muscle, or I have professional athletes. And then I have soccer moms that just want to lose a few pounds, right. And feed their family well. So we run the gamut. Our, we have clients from seven years old to now, 93 years old, and she’s doing great. She’s actually been on our program for over five. And she looks younger than she did when she started at 85 or 80. Let’s see how old was she? She was 89. And now she’s been with us for almost five years. And she looks almost 70 years old when she came to me, she looked 80. You know, she looked, she looked that age and now she’s, she’s, she’s going back in time and it’s wonderful to watch her. Um, so we serve our clients by delivering fresh meals, right. To their door. Everything is prepared for you. It’s all portion controlled calorie, counted protein, count to carb, counted fat counted for your specific goals. So it’s very, um, customized to each client.

Yeah. And I think that’s huge and that’s so important. I think a lot of people look for that, right. They, they, they, you know, are willing to pay for a convenience right. Where someone’s preparing the food for them. And it’s basically, Hey, here, eat this. I think, you know, a lot of people it’s become more and more popular, right. These prepared meals delivered to you. Um, how do you go about customizing it? Like, for example, you mentioned with their macros, how do you determine that? Um, it obviously depends on the person’s goals, but do they fill out some type of questionnaire? Do they do blood work beforehand? Um, how do you get, how do you get it customized to their needs?

Absolutely. Um, so you can go right on my website at meals, the transform.com schedule a consultation with your consultation is free. And, um, and then with that, you’ll get a link. That’s just a small questionnaire. It’s some medical, you know, it is a medical based questionnaire. So I need to know if you’re allergic to anything or what your preferences are. If you do have cancer or high blood pressure or diabetes, um, those are all good things for me to understand is your nutritionist. And then you have a personal phone call with your nutritionist. And then that’s where we decide what the best plan is for you. We have all sorts of plans. We have the improve, your selfie plan, which is our weight loss plan. We have dynamic eating cleanse. We have a full signature meal plan. We have a five day, a three day and a seven day meal plan.

And then we do family meals as well. So every household is different. Every single person is different, every couple is different. So, um, a consultation is absolutely necessary and, and then we decide what’s best for you. And then as your program goes along, you are checked in with you become our client. So we are here to support you. And we check in, we, um, see if we need to make any changes. Uh, if there are hormone issues, I absolutely like you, like you said, ask for blood work. And so that’s really important. Um, but you don’t have to have that immediately when you call.

Yeah. And what about on the exercise side of things so that people ask for that? Or is it you guys strictly just focus on nutrition?

Yeah, absolutely. People ask for that. Um, for me personally, uh, I have let go of that part of my practice, um, only because there’s great trainers out there that I can support with their clients, right. So there’s great trainers and yoga studios and Pilates studios where, you know, I really love to help their clients achieve better results from their workouts. And then for me feeding them good food. Um, but I highly recommend lots of different things. Right. I think that everybody is different and a plan has to be created with food and nutrition and, uh, exercise, and then that mental, whether it be meditation, a spiritual side to your, to your practice. And so, um, those are all things that are talked about for sure. Um, I don’t, I’m just not one on one with clients any longer.

Yeah. So you, do you mostly just focus on, you know, Utah obviously, cause this is where your base right now, most of your clients are here.

Um, I actually have clients all over the world. Um, we also have a protein line that we mail, uh, everywhere. We have our own protein bars. Um, we have, uh, what we call our own power brand and that is really feeling the vibration of home in everything that we do. So being the best and having the best nutrition in people’s bodies. So we have a whole protein line that you can get online and shipped right to your house. Um, our food program is yes, very specific to Utah, but we travel the whole Valley and up into park city and all over. Um, and then I do coaching online. So I have clients all over the world. I traveled to LA a lot and I’m in Europe and New York a lot. And, um, yeah, so I do retreats all over the world as well. So I have clients every year.

That is so cool. Um, so I got to ask you, we’re running up on time here, but, um, you used to train celebrities right back in the day. Right. What was your, what was your connection to Vince McMahon?

Oh, well not Vince mix, man. So his daughter, his daughter, and a triple H were clients. And, um, they’re fantastic people. I actually just met, uh, Stephanie, his mother, um, at a conference here, actually, she has, uh, an incredible conference where she just speaks with women entrepreneurs. And, um, so yeah, that’s, that’s my connection with the WWE and, uh, and the man.

Yes. And so how has it training? AAA says big wrestler. I mean, how much food is someone like him eat? Yeah,

Well, at that time he was still wrestling. So, you know, um, he’s more on the business side now, so he’s not wrestling as much, but yeah. You know, anywhere from 5,000 to 8,000 calories a day. Wow. Lots of protein, you know, 300 to 350 grams of protein a day. And, um, you know, for me, I did a lot of mind stuff for them, so yoga and a mind transformation.

Okay. Shifting gears back to you, um, what does a typical day look like for you? Let’s say like on a Monday through Friday, like what does a typical day look like for you? You cooking all day long, you know, what, what is your week look like as far as like a typical day of work for you?

Yeah. I, um, I wake up every morning in between five 30 and six 30. I like to do at least a 20 minute meditation where I’m getting ready for my day. Or if I have already gone through my day, the night before then I will meditate and, um, just kind of get my head and mind right. For the, for the rest of the week and for the day. Um, and then I usually like to do my workouts in the morning. It really depends on the day for me. Sometimes I have to do them in the evening, but I like to do my workouts in the morning. Um, I do anything from cardio to sculpt, to lifting weights, to yoga, to, um, riding my bike, to escape around Liberty park. So, um, all of those things, if it’s good weather outside, I like to be outside more than anything.

I have done cardio inside for a long time. So I like to be outside when I do my cardio and do my workouts. Um, and then really it’s, you know, great people like you who last interviews or, um, I’m working with my team. My team is at my kitchen right now. I have a staff of, of nine people and then we have five delivery drivers and, um, they’re getting ready. You know, we make about 5,600 meals a week and, um, getting ready for our, our deliveries for tomorrow. So we’re making meals and packaging meals right now. And I have an incredible staff who make that all happen. And then for me, I’m doing consultations and selling the program. So making sure that clients are taken care of and, uh, that questions are answered and giving nutrition advice and, and working with clients. And so my phone never stops ringing, which is awesome. And, um, I get to just be out in the public and be with my clients and, um, really promote meals that transform.

Yeah, that is awesome. Well, it sounds like a dream job, especially if it’s something that you’re passionate about. That sounds awesome. Cause you are helping so many people and um, I appreciate what you do. You, I know that being in this industry, you know, it can be hard to sometimes, you know, get caught up in the business side of things, but then a day you have to remember this meal that you’re making is going to help this one individual. And it’s, it’s changing their life physically, mentally, emotionally as well. So it’s sometimes it’s good to remember that, that higher purpose of what you do. And I’m sure that you have many opportunities to meet people and people are thinking you all the time. Um, okay. Last couple questions then we’ll, we’ll give people an idea of where they can find you online. You mentioned your website a couple of times, but uh, what, what is your favorite like treat meal or cheat meal that you just like to it’s like your guilty pleasure.

I love, which I literally just had yesterday. I love a gluten free pizza and it’s got chicken Bazell and a little bit of pesto and mozzarella on it and it’s on a gluten free crust. That’s like one of my favorite cheat meals. And I just had it yesterday, sitting out on the patio with my husband, um, with a Caesar salad with no croutons. That’s what I like. It doesn’t affect me. It doesn’t like make me, you know it, but it’s, it feels like a cheap meal.

Yeah. Okay. And you do make the crust. Do you buy a specific crest?

Um, I make it or I, or we go out, you know, if there’s a gluten free option. Yeah.

Yeah. So you have to be gluten free then

I am, you know, and, and particularly with a, with a pizza crust, it’s like a Cracker, you know, it’s really crispy. And so it’s yummy, you know, I like that much better than a traditional, um, crust.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, what recently, what book have you read recently? That’s made a big impact on your life if any book?

Yeah. Ooh, that’s a good question. I actually just, um, finished a book and now I can’t remember the title of it. That’s terrible. I’m going to read this. You are a badass book, so maybe that’s my next favorite.

Okay. You gotta let me know. That’s okay. I forget sometimes too. I’m like, I just read this amazing book and I don’t remember the title, but here’s what I, yes. Okay. Last question. Favorite movie of 2017. So far if you’ve watched any movies, it’s only three months into it.

Favorite movie? Um, you know, we just, um, saw seeing this weekend, which was, I thought it was the cutest movie. It was so great, but I also really liked, um, nocturnal animals. I thought it was really, um, I thought it was done really well.

Yeah. I think I can’t remember what that was about, but I think I did see that on, it’s kind of like dark, right. It’s a little bit dark, but it was, I enjoyed it. That’s a big contrast from seeing

Darling. I think everyone should see that movie. I thought it was great. You know, he was so super optimistic and I think it just pins too, to what we’re talking about, you know, in this podcast that, you know, you can do anything that you put your mind to, and no matter how far down he was, I mean, he was completely in debt, bill collectors, calling him like the lit literally the theater falls down, you know, and he’s still just like walked on the rebel and was just like, we’re going to make this happen. And I love that. I just, I thought it was the most darling show.

Yeah. You know, so interesting having two daughters that are seven to five, we watched those movies like trolls and marijuana and sing and like they’re fun movies, but the same time, there’s a big life lesson in each and every single one of them that I try and talk to my daughters about, like, you know, this part, what happened here? Like this can apply to you in your life when this happens or that happens. Never give up, get back up again. Um, you know, there’s a long way, one way to go when you’re at the bottom and that’s up. And so those kinds things, it’s a it’s I think it’s good that it makes those life lessons into these kids’ movies, you know, is it’s a teaching moment for, for me as a parent. But, um, Angela, thank you so much for coming on today. Where can people find you on online, social media, all your websites, all that,

Thank you. Yes, I am Angela Martindale and uh, all my social media handles and then, uh, meals that transform.com and then also meals that transform on social media.

Okay. Um, thank you so much, Angela. I appreciate you coming on and what the off the meter for some gluten free pizza sometime

I love it. You come into sugar house and we great. Sounds good.


Thank you guys for listening to today’s episode with Angela Martindale. I hope you guys enjoyed it and, and found some value out of it. I know I did, especially talking about self-talk and the way that we talk to ourselves, um, you know, transformation is so much more mental and emotional than we than we think. And I’m glad that we were able to dive into that into today’s episode. And hopefully you guys understand that as well. I mean, I could give you the best meal plans and workouts and I have online meal plans and workouts and programs and all that’s cool, but the most important part is overcoming your mental and emotional challenges and that’s how you make it a lifestyle change. So thanks once again, for tuning in, please subscribe to us on iTunes, leave us a review, let us know what you think. Tell your friends and family about the podcast and certain episodes that you love.

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