Aloha everybody and welcome to the fit to fat, to fit experience podcast. It’s me, your host, drew Manning. Thank you guys for tuning in today. Uh, I am here in Utah and, uh, I have a, an awesome interview for you yesterday. For those of you who don’t know, I used to live out in Hawaii. Well, about a year ago, a year and a half ago, I was out there and lived on the big Island of Hawaii, lived in Kona, and I met a lot of cool people out there. And a couple of people that I met, I brought on the podcast today. I was introduced to a product called a bio Aston, which is made of Hawaiian asses Anthony and I started taking the product out there. Anyways. I found out that the headquarters of facilities that, you know, they harvest it right out there in Kona.

And so I was able to take a tour of the place, see the science behind it, how they make it. Um, it’s a, it’s a very strenuous, you know, complicated process. But anyways, I was super impressed and I’ve been taking the product forever. You guys have seen me post about bioplastics and plenty of times, uh, from my joints, my skin, uh, those are the two biggest things that I notice. Um, I stopped taking my glucosamine and chondroitin supplements. Anyways, the, I brought three people on the podcast at once and they’re all joining me from Kona. So the owner, the founder of the company, dr. Jerry, um, he’s the founder of it. He started, uh, making spirulina back in the eighties and then located to, uh, Hawaii and then found, asked to ask the xanthan, which is a very powerful antioxidant made from these micro-algae anyways.

Um, he’s on, uh, the founder of the company. And then I brought on ileka ho mana. Who’s a good friend of mine who has a, you know, an amazing transformation story. He’s a, uh, he was a CrossFit coach when I was out there. He’s a strength and conditioning coach. Now, uh, he used to be overweight. He lost a hundred plus pounds, um, uh, which is amazing and ended up self. And then he started training Agnes. Who’s the director of sales and marketing for bios then, and now, you know, she being, I think, I think she’s 50. Um, yeah, he trains her doing triathlons and that’s how ileka lost. His weight was, uh, getting into triathlons. And, um, now he trains Agnes who has been, uh, uh, you know, working for the company for 19 years. I think, um, now she is doing triathlons at 50 and her goal this year is to do an Ironman.

Anyways, there’s three separate people. So it’s a little bit complicated, just so just be patient with us as we get rolling. Once we get rolling, then it’s a little bit smoother throughout the episode, but it’s a great episode. Nonetheless, you’re gonna learn about the science behind spirulina and asked the xanthan and why you should at least consider looking into these types of supplements or products to take, to add to your regimen. Um, if you haven’t already been taking them, I do take them. I’ll be honest with you. I do. Um, I don’t have an affiliation with the company. I just like them and that’s why I wanted to bring them on. Right. So, uh, anyways, um, the cool thing is they did pass on a discount code for 40% off all their products for you guys. If you go to [inaudible] dot com, just enter in the code, fit to fat, to fit just like my podcasts, my book, my brand, and you get 40% off of their products.

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Alright, so we have here, we have a Leeka we have Agnes and Jerry joining us all the way out from the big Island of Hawaii in Kona. Thank you guys so much for joining me here on the fit to fat, to fit experience podcast. How are you guys doing

Thank you for having us.

Yeah, I know it’s morning out there almost well afternoon. You guys are three hours behind, but I really appreciate you guys joining me today. Um, uh, for the, all my listeners that are listening for you, for those of you who don’t know, I used to live out there in Kona, and that’s how I met these wonderful people. And, uh, we have a great podcast ahead. Uh, but first, if you guys don’t mind, we’ll start with Agnes. If you guys can kind of tell us your, I call it your superhero origin story of how you got to where you are today. A little bit about yourself, um, and we’ll start with Agnes and we’ll go ileka and then we’ll, we’ll start. Well, then we’ll go to Jerry.

Okay. I’ll start. Well, originally from Holland 29 years, um, I started working here in the health foods. Interesting. And I hope to be exact about 25 years ago. Then I moved onto Cyanna tech. I’ve been with the company for 19 years this year. Um, I love it. Great company, good people. Um, I’m very in the fitness and the fitness lately.

Yeah. Tell us about that. You weren’t always into fitness. How did you get into fitness?

A couple of years ago when I was 49, I decided, you know, it’s time for me to get in shape now, but by the time I’m 50, because I figured if I don’t do it now, I’m not going to do it again. I’m not going to do it ever be that way. I’m off and on my whole life, I was kind of like a little bit here, a little bit there. I gained a few pounds, lost a few pounds, but never really where I want it to be. And so anyways, I met ileka through my daughter at CrossFit and he’s just a super cool guy. And I said, okay, well, does he do a personal training? So, you know, that might work. And sure enough, he did started working out with him. It’s been almost two years now. I lost a few pounds, I think about what 50 or something. Wow. We’re still at it. We did a couple of triathlons. Um, we’re training for a 50 K in a few weeks. Wow. Yeah. And he always keeps things very interesting. So yeah,

No, I’m sure he does. So about that. 50 pounds is a lot of weight, first of all. And then to do triathlons, that’s a whole nother thing. Did, was that more of a, Leeka trying to convince you to do, or did you have a passion? Did you know you, that’s something like a goal you had in mind originally or what got you into?

No, I didn’t really have a goal at the beginning other than to lose some weight. And once that started happening, it was kind of like, okay, well maybe I should set a goal. And I believe the first one was to do a half a marathon. Um, which what we did. And then I think ileka did come up with the Lama man. He suggested that because that’s the Olympic distance. That’s how I kinda got into it. And it’s not like, you know, I’m not a full on triathlete. I’m on say, it’s all I do because I definitely want to get stuck with, I don’t want to get stuck with one sport. So I’m always looking for something interesting and exciting. Um, but that’s kind of how we got it all I got into it.

Awesome. Okay. Let’s go to a Leeka next ileka your story is, is awesome too, man. And you got to tell us all of it, every detail. So

Here the corner, when I was about seven or eight years old, a few years here in Kona, they moved over to Hilo, uh, for about seven or eight years where I went to the Hawaiian immersion school and then moved back here to Kona. Um, I, after high school, there’s no sports after. I I’ve always been fairly athletic. Um, but after high school, there’s just really nothing if, unless you’re going to college and I wasn’t planning on going to any colleges. Um, so I decided to conquer the bars around town and be the best drinker I could possibly be. I was fairly good at it.

Did you want to go, did you win a gold medal?

Yeah, so I gave quite a bit of weight. I’m five, seven, and I gained up to about 265 pounds. Um, yeah. And, um, so it’s a nice big old round shape. Um, I’m, I’m, I’m also an artist. Like I, I, uh, designed a lot of the artwork for the Ironman, um, chaplain world championships here in Kona. Uh, and through that was, that’s how I got in, uh, into the world of triathlon. Um, so I figured to help lose some weight. I couldn’t do three sports put into one that’ll speed up the process. So I did, I started to train for triathlons and, um, let’s see, I started to change some track lines and I lost some weight until I kind of a friend of mine has used, did CrossFit. Um, and when the combination of prostate and the endurance sport, I, I lost a front, a bit of weight, about 110 pounds to be exact. Uh, and yeah, it was, it was good. I mean, over the course of maybe like two, maybe like three years, um, and fill it up with the, uh, CrossFit, um, way of training, uh, and carry that over into the endurance world where I currently trained a bunch of my, uh, athletes, if you will, or clients. Um, so yeah, that’s kinda where I’m at then. Uh, so world championships here in Florida in 2012, uh, ran across the country in 2013 with a buddy of mine to raised some money for the hurricane Sandy victims.

Yeah, that’s right. I forgot about that. You ran across the country from where to where,

Um, it was, uh, it was started in San Francisco city hall ended in New York city hall was a 71 days average about 50 to 55 miles a day.

Oh my gosh, man. And that, that is incredible that I completely forgot that story. I remember you telling me that my mind was blown and I know a lot of people listening to this are like, are like, wait, did I hear that right? You ran across the country, you Forrest Gump. It

That’s fair to just be, uh, uh, a part of this crew. Uh, his name is Jason Lester.

Um, and I was there to just be a part of his crew and he had a mountain bike that I could, I could ride it if I chose to, but riding at five miles per hour for that many miles, let’s just, but so yeah, through that that’s RV and just decided to run with them. So it turned out to be that we, we, we read, so it was a good, it was, it was good. How much weight did you lose? Um, I lost 33 pounds from start until the finish. Yeah, it was pretty bad. It was, it was pretty bad. It was a brutal.

Yeah. That’s like a once in a lifetime thing, you know, one and done, at least for me, it would be, you know, if I even made it that far. But, um, no, that’s an awesome story. And I’m going to come back to each of your stories specifically, cause I have more questions, but let’s, let’s move on to Jerry and Jerry, I got to ask you this. Do you have a weight loss story to match Agnes Angelica or have you always been skinny?

I don’t have a weight loss story.

That’s okay. Tell us your story a little bit about your, you are the founder of the company. And tell us a little bit about, you know, you started this back in the eighties and how, how it came about what was your passion back then and what led you down this path?

No, actually, I, I, uh, I’m a chemical engineer by formal training and I did all my graduate work in narrative, bio engineering and working with microorganisms to produce products. And I started teaching at a university of California, Santa Barbara in 72 and was looking for a research topic and found that this whole class of organisms micro-algae that have the ability to produce a tremendous wide range of nutritional products, very healthy, very unique products. So I started working, doing research with micro algae back then, uh, funded by the national science foundation. And that’s when I really started and got my hands real green with microbiology. Um, sort of jump ahead, um, decided to, uh, found Santo tech, um, based on the technology and a product, uh, inner the healthy markets spirulina. And, uh, it was a product that had a tremendously rich nutritional composition, a very good product, but at that time it was all coming in from, uh, Mexico, uh, near a Lake near Mexico city, like Texas, the cocoa and the spirulina, although nutritionally, it was very good.

It was a dirty product and had high bacterial counts, high, heavy metal counts. So that thought, Hey, here’s an opportunity. Uh, Marcus being established to apply some engineering solutions to efficiently produce spirulina and an extremely high quality of spirulina. So we, we got enough money in sign up tech to put up a small production site. And we looked all over the United States for suitable place, wrote letters to every site’s state in the union. And it was really almost a joke that, uh, I wrote to Hawaii. Uh, and as soon as my letter hit the state of Hawaii department called aquaculture development, I got a call from the department and they explained that there’s this wonderful site. And we have here the natural energy laboratory and a sanitec was actually founded in the Seattle area. It was February in Seattle, and it’s very easy to convince yourself to take a business trip to Hawaii in February.

I can imagine

We came out here and looked at it and indeed this part we’re located is probably the ideal spot to grow micro algae located here at the natural energy lab, kale K a Holy point, we get more sunlight than any other coastal location in United States. It’s warm 12 months a year. So produced 12 months here. We get very little rainfall only about 12 inches a year. And it’s a really interesting area. It’s very far away from any kind of agricultural operations. So we came out here and started construction in 1984 and spirulina with our first product. And we we’ve been here ever since we started with five acres. Now we occupied 90 acres.

Yeah. And how, how have you seen spirulina for example, specifically boom, in the past? I don’t know. Cause I mean, I’m trying to think about when I first heard a spirulina, you know, I’ve been in the health and fitness industry for about eight years now and it wasn’t just until probably the past five years I would say is where it became more widely recognized. But for you starting back in the eighties, when did you see people start to pick up on spirulina?

Well, there always seem to be a very faithful following people using spirulina. It has been growing, it grew up pretty fast, I think during the early nineties and then somewhat level off right now, we’re seeing a steady growth in about five to 7% a year in spirulina usage.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is kind of, you know, I started hearing about it from other health and fitness professionals and then I think more, you know, every time I listened to a podcast, spirulina seems to be like the hot, uh, supplement that’s out there. Right. Cause it’s a, it comes from the ocean and um, it’s, uh, the, the wide variety of, of nutrients. And it’s one of the most nutrient dense foods you can find on the planet. Right?

Absolutely. Yes. It, uh, you know, it has a very high level of antioxidant crop. It contains a unique, uh, blue pigment called psycho cyan and that helps protect the liver and kidney from toxin. And it also contains antiviral compounds as well as compounds that stimulate the immune system. So people spirulina tend to have more energy and not get sick anywhere near as much.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, let’s, uh, let’s talk about Aston xanthan. Uh, first of all, I’m sure there’s people out there who still don’t know what that is or even how to pronounce the word. Can you tell us the basics of asked us xanthan is and why it’s so powerful?

Well, ask to Zanten is a carotinoids who related to things like beta carotene, lutein and lycopene, but it’s the most abundant crop found in the Marine environment. It’s what color salmon flesh, as well as lobster shells and shrimp shells. And as it turns out, asked the xanthan is the most powerful, natural antioxidant known, um, many, many times stronger than beta carotene, lutein, vitamin D or vitamin C for instance. And in addition asked, is ant and has antiinflammatory properties. So as does, Antin actually can address a number of health issues that combine either poor antioxidant status and or inflammatory and mounts.

Yeah. So, so where is it harvested from? What does it come from? How do you guys make it

The richest source of natural acids and tons from a micro algae, call him Matt, a caucus blew the house and that microbiology we culture here at, uh, at Siam tech for, for new trucks, Hawaii. Uh, we, we grew up in, in line bonds that are about 300 feet, long, 30 feet across and old, about 250,000 liters. It’s a very complicated process because we actually start these very large cultures in a laboratory in about a cup of, uh, liquid in a shape class. So it goes from something like 250 mils, then to 20 meters, to 400 liters, then to 30,000 liters and 60,000 liters. Then finally up to 250,000 liters, the whole process takes about seven weeks. And then we harvest them at a caucus by a combination of letting the algae settle to the bottom of the tank and centrifugation. And then we dry it with a dry, uh, amount of cotton is we’re only halfway there. Then all we have to do is we use something called super critical carbon dioxide extraction to extract all the oils in the asses. And then out of the microbiology and just ask does Anthon rich, all your residents extracted is then formulated into, put into soft gels to finally make the soft gel capsules that are sold as blasted.

Yeah. For those, for everyone listening that if you didn’t understand any of that, I just know that it’s a complicated process and, uh, it’s the highest quality product you can find pretty much. So if you didn’t understand the science behind what, what Jerry was just explaining that’s okay. Just know that it is a, it is an interesting process and I have seen it. It’s amazing. If you get a chance to go to Kona, check out your guys’, um, facility out there. It’s it’s I mean, it’s amazing what you guys have done there.

Yeah. The, you know, the other thing I wanted to add is that we don’t use it’s all non-GMO we don’t see any herbicides or pesticides anywhere on the facility and our extraction process that the comm docs I use, it’s essentially solid and there are no toxic solvents like hexane heptane or alcohol use. And the extraction process is just pure CO2. So it’s an extremely clean product.

And the spirit leading you guys harvest that there as well. Right?

Well, we do about half our farms in sparingly and production. The other half is in of caucus production for a forest to produce.

Now, what is, let’s say your average person starts taking asses Anthon and spirulina. What are some noticeable things that people, you know, would start to notice if they’ve never taken these supplements before?

Well, if they’re taking both, the one thing they would notice is it wouldn’t get sick as much and they probably tend to have more energy that’s really comes from the spirulina on the ass is Anthem side asked is Anthony is very good at helping with, with joint pains. It’s doing good at helping with muscle soreness and muscle recovery. After strenuous exercise and amazingly, uh, asked his Antin is almost an internal sunscreen. It actually, uh, consuming passes and orally, uh, increases, uh, skin’s resistance to UV radiation. And that’s because of the first, uh, thing that happens when you starting to get sunburn is a generation of free radicals in the skin and asked to stand and very effectively crunches those free radicals. So they can’t do a lot of damage.

That’s so interesting. Cause I was going to ask you about that. And that’s one of the biggest things I noticed when I first started taking it was out there and Kona, I was never getting sunburned. I don’t, I couldn’t understand it. It was so interesting, but people told me about it before I took it. So I kind of knew that was one of the side effects, but, um, yeah, I would give it to my daughters too, not to say that we didn’t put sunscreen on, but at the same time I knew that, uh, I, I would, I never got sunburned. It was so interesting. Oh, go ahead.

Well, we had no idea that that was a property. Vass is Anthony. And then some of the people here that work here at sanitec are avid surfers and we started getting feedback. Hey, I’m taking a ass Zack and by Austin, not in a circle and you’re not concerned anymore. I thought after the third or fourth person that told us that we’re going to do a clinical trial under control conditions. Sure enough, uh, consuming asses, Anthem, uh, really enhances the skin’s resistance to descender and UV radiation.

Yeah. Um, let’s, let’s go over to a leak a little bit. Leeka kind minus your perspective of when you started taking asses Anthon and spirulina. And then what did you notice as an athlete, uh, training for triathlons, for example, that were noticeable benefits too.

Um, I started taking it about seven or eight years ago while I was playing tennis. This is before triathlon. Um, and I used to get super, super bird and sunburn. Um, I, I wear my hair really, really short kind of bald and that would just get,

Just get hammered by the sun. Um, but, uh, I’m sure a friend of mine had suggested statement bio acid for, uh, internal sunscreen. He told me, I just kind of giggled to myself and said, that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. I started to Dick it and I didn’t really notice it until I noticed that I wouldn’t get sunburned. Um, I would get red and then I, that was it. I would get darker the next day and I wouldn’t appeal, uh, which is weird. Um, as far as like joint than their joint, um, recovery and everything like that, that I didn’t really notice that until I ran out of my bottle and, you know, started to kind of go through the motions of what, what did I change? And, and it was that, that I kind of stopped taking the, the bypass and then I started to not take too long or a little longer than the normal to recover. So jumped back on and ever since I, as long as I had some I’d taken it, so

Yeah. Yeah. Just don’t run out of it. That’s the, that’s the only thing. Um, no, that’s, that’s really interesting cause I, I honestly didn’t start taking until I moved out there and I saw it at Walmart target and I’m like, what is this stuff? Um, and then it started, you know, listening to more podcasts and doing a little bit more research on it and just fell in love with this stuff. Cause I asked around what other people thought of it and sure enough. I mean, it, it was noticeable. I used to take, um, glucosamine and chondroitin for my joints and that, you know, that seemed to help. Uh, but then I stopped taking it and I started taking this stuff and it was like night and day. Cause there’s so many other benefits, like the protection from the sun, um, the anti-inflammatory properties, the recovery wasn’t as sore. Um, I was going to ask you Agnes for, from your perspective, because you’ve worked for the company for a long time. So you must’ve been taking this stuff for a while. How did it help you in your transformation when you started working with the Leeka?

I think it really helped my recovery, obviously with my immune system, but the bio acid, if you know, only guy, you know, his workouts, which entails probably about a thousand squats. And then our really helped me in my recovery. You know, I wouldn’t be as sore after workouts. And then of course the sun, because we do live in Hawaii. So mostly for those reasons and I can separate spirulina from my immune system, just, just for your overall wellbeing.

And I noticed that a lot of your ambassadors on your website or triathletes or surfers, right? Is that your main?

No, they actually come to us from all angles. We have, um, like you said, triathletes, um, we got tennis players got what else?

We have surfers. We have a big wave surfer and all these, these people, they come to us because they take the product, they love it. And they just come to us and say, Hey, what can we do to, you know, to help you promote this because they want to take it. It’s really cool. What’s been happening with that.

Yeah. Now, now, Jerry, I kind of wanted to ask you, um, there’s other brands out there there’s other asses Anthon’s what’s, what’s the difference? Is there, are they all created equal? And if not, why is that? And does it make sense?

Well, it does. And one thing we’re starting to see a little bit of synthetic gas is, and you know, the nutrition market, there’s a tremendous difference between synthetic and natural asses. And that, even though it says nature identical, it’s not, and it gets somewhat technical, but the gist of it is there’s probably 300 clinical studies showing natural asses and health benefits and safety. None of the synthetic we’ve measured the antioxidant power of natural compared to synthetic. And I think a natural ass is at that is probably eight or nine times stronger than this and daddy. So that’s one thing I’d really advise your listeners to shy away from is, um, uh, synthetic gas is Anthem. Now there are, there are other national asses anthems on the market. Um, they’re reasonable quality. Um, we, we know some of the companies and we’ve actually formed, what’s called a, the natural algae acids, Anthem association or AXA to educate the public, um, about the, the advantages of natural assets and in this next organization or some of our competitors.

And there were the competitors produce a reasonable product, Cytotec produces asses and in a very natural way, we actually expose our amount of caucus to the direct intensity of sunlight at the last stage. And really if it ripens or accumulates asses, and then naturally our competitors either grow this and in case glass tubes or in some cases using artificial lighting for vendors. Um, so it’s a different growing technique, a different production technique. Ours is really very close to nature. How asked is an accumulates in nature. And, uh, we have tremendous, uh, quality control program here. We’re a good manufacturing practices, certified, uh, you know, following all GMP laws dictated by the FDA and we’ve done producing natural asses. And then since that 1996. So we’re, we’re one of the oldest producer of this product.

Yeah. And I’m assuming you guys come together, especially against the synthetic assets. Anthon’s so I’m assuming are a lot cheaper, but it doesn’t say on the bottle synthetic to xanthan, right. I’m assuming no,

It does. It’ll say nature identical, that’s it. That’s a big giveaway.

Okay. That’s what I was going to ask you. What can people look for that will tell them if it’s synthetic?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The synthetic gas is Athan or nature or that glass is at the starting point for that is petrochemicals it’s made from petrochemicals in factory. Hmm.

That’s interesting. Yeah. So that’s something for something for you guys to be aware of. If you’ve seen other assets Anthony’s out there, just do your homework a little bit. And um, I kind of want to also talk about, um, the cardiovascular, the benefits to this, um, for example, in triathletes or endurance athletes of any type, um, and then also the eye and brain health too, and how [inaudible] helps out with those, with those two things.

Yeah, it’s funny. I was just reviewing some literature, some human clinical studies on both of those, uh, uh, uh, health, health indications and the other. Let’s see, I think I reviewed, uh, four different studies, uh, in, or people to gases ant and starting from four milligrams all the way up to 18 milligrams per day. And in each study, what they found was that the LDL cholesterol, the bad cholesterol went down, HDL went up and triglycerides went down. So it really helps a lot with, with blood chemistry. Also one study showed that it decreased the oxidation of fatty acids in the blood, which oxidation of fatty acids leads to arterial sclerosis, pardon me, and take a Pauline to the blood vessels. And so it really is good for heart health. The other, the other point you mentioned eye health and brain health passes and is one of the few, few, carotinoids it actually cross, they call the blood brain barrier.

Things like lycopene. You can’t cross that, but this allows you to ask the cross the blood brain barrier and get in and deliver an accident anti-inflammatory effects to both the eyes and the brain. And in terms of iHealth, there are, I think I have five studies now, uh, with, uh, eye health and asses ad that showing that it reduces ICT and that it also increases accommodation with disabilities. See fine details. So for modern day, uh, workers, uh, staring at computer screens, it’s really a beneficial product reduction, knife and D so you see the small details on a computer screen and in terms of brain health, um, there are a number of studies showing that one of them show that consumption of asses and reduces a compound sound in the patients have dementia or Alzheimer’s disease. It’s called P L O H and relays in high amounts in people with dementia or Alzheimer’s consumption of asses and actually reduce that. And then another sort of qualitative study, they found people with mild dementia taking asses, and then at 12 milligrams per day, their dementia, uh, improved got, got less their memory increase. So there are definitely human clinical trials, all of these studies. And again with that,

Yeah, I’m looking at some of these human clinical asses Anthon studies and there’s, there’s a lot of them. Yeah.

We actually have on our website, the nutrients website that a library can go to. And there’s a, a book of abstracts on the scientific research with asses and the natural assets. And I think it was about 360 pages long, and it’s just the abstracts, not the full papers.

Yeah. Um, it’s amazing. And that’s the, that’s one thing that makes a supplement like this legit or legitimate for people is to see human, uh, clinical studies like, like these ones, like you guys have on us as Anthon and that’s the power behind it. Right. Cause it’s not just something that, uh, that no one’s tested before. And you know, there’s definitely science to back it up, which, which I look for in a supplement as well. That’s what I tell all my followers to look for as well. Um, going over some of these statistics that I’m seeing, it also says it’s 6,000 times stronger than vitamin C 800 times stronger than Coke. U 10, 550 times stronger than green tea. I’m a hundred times stronger than vitamin E sorry, go ahead. Green tea. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, I missed that last word right there, but I mean, this is really powerful stuff. Is there, is it, um, is it possible to overdose on this stuff if you take too much of it is, you know, cause sometimes, uh, if something is good more of it, isn’t always better.

Well, we, we recommend 12 milligrams per day. We actually have a filed what’s called a new dietary ingredient. Notice with the FDA on 12 milligrams a day. It’s absolutely safe, 12 milligrams a day for very long term use. Having said that some of our, our triathlete customers, uh, one gentleman in particular that works with us, Tim Mark takes 50 milligrams a day when he’s training hard and no side effects. I know of other people are taking 25 milligrams a day and it’s really improved some eye conditions that they’ve had with beta carotene. Um, and actually spirulina contains a lot of beta karaoke. If you take too much spirulina the beta keratin sparely and it will start to turn your skin yellow, especially the first part of the palms of your hands. That, that doesn’t happen with acids Anthem. If you take 50 milligrams a day, your skin doesn’t turn red. So we know of no, uh, adverse effects, no, uh, uh, side effects of taking asses. And we don’t know the upper limit.

Yeah, no, that, that’s just, um, something I ask all the time just to, for, for those people that, um, that might have that question. Uh, but anyways, no, I, I take, um, two to three, you know, uh, 12 milligrams. So what’s that 36, 24 to 36. What about you Alica and Agnes, how much do you guys take and does it vary?

I take the, I take the same, same, same as you. And yet it varies depending on if it’s off day or not, but at least 24 milligrams a day, at least. Yeah. I I’m pretty consistent. I have a bottle on my desk, so I’m really good. I forget sometimes on the weekends, but I say to,

Yeah. And then, um, I know that obviously there’s no clinical studies done on kids with this, but is it safe to give kids?

Yeah, we really do not have any clinical studies with children, but do you know the total safety of it in adults? Um, you know, I think, you know, Kim’s should probably be over eight or nine years old before they do that. Um, but know that affects, we’ve been selling it since 98, you know, literally tens of millions of doses have been so by a new Trex, uh, to the, into the USB. And then I get to my dog. Yeah. He’s, he’s pretty much almost completely blind, but I’ve been putting it in with his dog food. And I don’t know if this is working or not, but yeah, I think you can ask him and, and, uh, his coat is pretty shy. Okay. Interesting that the doc said racers, one of them is actually a secret ingredient. They put in the food of the dog sleds that helps them recover much faster. And they, we actually were selling a feed grade and we stopped selling that. And now they’re using the human grade or their side ducks.

Now that, that actually is really interesting. Um, so what other products do you guys have over there? I know you’ve got the acid, the bio elastin, the spirulina. What else do you guys produce?

Uh, green complete. Um, that’s a fairly high green drink now. We have a protein. That’s pretty new. Um, what else do we have? We have somebody to carry in. We have a joint and that’s about it.

What are, sorry? What is, uh, what’s the difference between joint Aston and Westin and what was the other one? Omega Aston.

Yeah, those are vegetarian formula ingredients to make them specific condition specific.


And, uh, what any, I don’t know if I can ask this, but are there any, uh, future products that you guys are launching soon that you guys want to talk about?

All of our products are based right now on spirulina and we are actively searching for a new backgrounds, new product, new metrology to grow here. Um, there’s really nothing I can talk about, you know, going to be coming out next year. Um, we’re looking very hard at concentrating, um, really helpful unique products from my grout.

Yeah. And no, I like that. And you always gotta be looking for the next big thing, like, uh, you know, the next allergy or whatever it is, uh, to stay, to stay up with, you know, modern science. And, you know, if you guys don’t discover, someone’s gonna discover it. And, um, but that’s what I like about you guys. You guys are always on the cutting edge and, uh, you guys, you guys have hit a gold mine in my opinion, with, with asses Anthony. I hear everybody talking about it. Now. One of my good friends who has one of the most, the number one health podcast on iTunes, uh, Sean Stevenson was, did a whole podcast on asses Anthony. Um, I don’t know if he’s been connected with your brand yet, but I’ll have to talk to him about it. Um, uh, before, before I let you guys go, um, I kind of wanted to ask you this ileka cause you’re actually the first, um, uh, native Hawaiian that I’ve had on the show. And I kind of want to ask about your story a little bit of, you know, when you gained the weight and you did the bar competition, the bars, did you see any of your, of your upbringing, your culture play into you gaining the weight because, uh, my brother lives out there and there’s, you know, a lot of Polynesians that are overweight, right. And it’s kind of part of the culture. What helps you to embrace that healthier lifestyle that, that, um, maybe you’re trying to help out in the Polynesian community?

Um, yes, Polynesians are, they’re not being bonded. They eat, um, ironically native, like traditionally our food and Hawaiian food or Polynesian food is really healthy if you stick to the traditional Polynesian food. But now with everything that added rice that every local eats with every single meal, um, that’s kind of, and, and the extra added salts and, um, and different ingredients that they add to the dishes. That’s kinda what, what, what spoils the health benefits, but like peril, Kahlo. That’s one of the, I’m pretty sure it’s one of the big, super food that I know a lot of colleges are studying too now. So it’s, um, or that’ll turn into poli, which is, are natives are stable for food for, uh, all Polycom stuff. Um, so, and we actually have, so our food is really healthy, but we just go a little overboard with everything else. And, um, if we could just stick to the basics of that, we’d be much more well off. Um,

Yeah, no, I agree. 100%. And I actually was talking with my brother about that as well. It’s just all the recent, uh, easy process foods that have made their way over there and they’re cheap. Right. They’re convenient and yeah, they taste good and man Twinkies tastes good, but you know, if you’re eating that all day,

Yeah. Take it. Take its toll. And, um, it’s, and we’re always raised to eat everything on our plate. When we were kids, you don’t leave the table until you, until you finish your food or you end up falling asleep on the table. So that’s, you know, that’s something when every local is pretty much raised on and grow older, you ended up teaching her kids to do the same thing. And, um, after I, I, I start to lose all the weight and stuff like that. I changed my whole, I tried to change my whole mindset on how I was raised, just because I wanted to kind of stop that, that, that whole mentality of, of over eating, um, finger full, but know what you’re eating. So I try to teach my son, my son he’s, uh, he’s nine now. Um, and now just give him, let him make the option, make him, but I’ll give him to kind of one really good option and one really bad option. So I kind of swayed a little bit towards that option. Um, but then he makes that option a choice. Um, so he, he never saw fast food until she was probably four, but that’s his grandparents for.


Yeah. Sometimes you got to break the chain a little bit with the old traditions. Sometimes that might not be the healthiest, even though they’ve been, you know, uh, passed down and, uh, from generation to generation, I, I definitely feel the same way too with my kids. Um, and it’s a struggle, right? Because everyone, all their other friends are doing it differently. So sometimes you gotta be the mean parents sometimes, uh, to help your kids. But, um, what are you doing now? Ileka I know you have your own business too with, uh, training. Right,

Right, right. Um, I remember when I, when I first met you, um, you came to one of my Saturday classes. I was crossing over, across the clown at a community workout, and I saw your name on you. Look kind of familiar. And I started him on the, on the, on the waiver. And then I saw your email and it said fit to fat to fit. And it was funny because like a month before that, uh, some aging company, I don’t even know how, but the cast did me for the first season of fit to fat to fit. And it was funny because I was like, yeah, let’s do it. I’ll do the whole interview and all of this stuff, the whole process went through it. Then since I got off of the interview, I called him right back. And I was like, you know, I, I just heard what I just told you that I lost 110 pounds and I don’t want to, I don’t want to gain any more weight and just kick it off again. So I said, cancel, cancel that whole thing. And then find out that I ended up meeting you one month later. That was kind of ironic that you, uh, we, we stumbled upon each other.

That was fun. I remember you telling me about that. I’m like, Oh yeah. Cause I remember when, when they cast that for the first season of fit to fat to fit. Yeah. They they’ve reached out to everybody. Right. Like who what’s trainers are crazy enough to really do this. And so, uh, all, you know, I’m glad you didn’t have to go through it because you’ve been through it once before. So you’ve, you’ve already proven yourself, man. And, um, you know, uh, before we, before we go, I’ll have people, have you guys, you know, give your social media and your websites and stuff like that. So people can get in touch with you and actually see you guys. Cause they can’t see you. But, um, but yeah, both, all three of you guys look, look amazing, you know, you’re all three fit. Um, and so, uh, but anyways, I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast before I let you guys go, though, I do have a few rapid fire questions for you and then we’ll, we’ll give people your website and, um, information if that’s okay. Certainly. Okay. What, and we’ll start with Jerry. Jerry, what is your favorite cheat meal? What’s your favorite? Unhealthy food

Fried pork rinds.

Oh, okay. Oh, those those sound good. That’s not that unhealthy, right? Yeah. Okay. Alica all same question. Yeah. Same question.

Uh, waffle, um, with, with ice cream and they get on top. And where do you find that? Who makes that anywhere? I can convince them to do that.

That does sound really good, actually. Okay. Agnes,

I haven’t say chocolate. Just chocolate Hershey’s or what? Any kind of good chocolate? No. Okay.

Okay. We’re not talking like, you know, mr. Goodbars or like the cheap Halloween stuff.

Yeah. I guess being from Europe, they have some really killer chocolate there, so I, yeah. That’s that’s my downfall.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That’s different. That’s totally different. Um, what was the biggest lesson you guys learned in 2016? We’ll start with Agnes.

For me, it was not to wait to get in shape. That was like, I probably shouldn’t look at this that way, but it’s like, why did I do this before? Why did I wait so long? That was my biggest lesson. And that’s what I try to tell everybody. Don’t wait now. Gotcha. Ileka mine’s is to always make time for yourself. I started my, my homeowner strength and conditioning company just over like just over a year ago. And um, my, my, my training has taken a huge toll on it. So, um, but I, I got everyone else to agree. Good success, but I’ll wait to try to make some time for yourself and the client back won’t be as hard.

Yeah. Yeah. Being an entrepreneur definitely takes its toll on you. You know, there’s so many unhealthy entrepreneurs out there, you know? Uh, sometimes we think, well I’m being selfish or I’ll be less productive. Uh, if I, you know, exercise or go to gym or meal prep or any of that stuff. Right. But when in reality, you’re, you know, you’re, you’re, there’s more of you to give if you’re taking care of your health first. So, you know, otherwise you’re pouring from an empty cup. What about you, Jerry?

Right. Just to keep persevering through problems,

Problems. I like that. Nice and simple. Okay. What are your goals for 2017? Let’s start, let’s start there. And you could, you could go Jerry first

Have a very successful year at new tricks, Hawaiian.

Very, very broad general. I like it though. Be very successful. What about you Alica?

My goal is to be able to take my family on a vacation. We have never been on a vacation. So even if it’s another Island or whatever, just take a couple of weeks off and kind of just

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agnes,

My goal would probably to do the iron man next year. That’s that’s the goal. So she was supposed to have done it this past year. I got a slot this year, but yeah, I had some medical reasons. I ended up with a blood clot in my lungs. So six weeks before they told me, sorry, you can’t do it. Oh man. That’s all good now. And I’ll ask them, help me with that big time. It’s almost awesome, Claire. So next year, hopefully we’ll try again. Okay.

2017 and it’ll be October, right? Yeah. Awesome. Well, I hope to make it back out there soon. You guys, uh, thank you once again for coming on before that you guys go, where can people find, uh, more information about bioassay and, and you guys personally, too, so websites and social medias, if that’s okay.

Okay, good. Bye. U S insight is I take biomass and that calm, um, Facebook is by just by elastin and Instagram. Um, and we do have a code for your listeners and 40% the fat defense.

Okay. So they go to, they go to that website and enter in the code Fitzpatrick.

Yeah, they should go to, I’m sorry. They need to go to [inaudible] dot com.

Okay. By you use code fit, fetch fit. We’ll put all that in the show notes too.

Yeah. And then my own Instagram is my first name. And then I asked H

Okay. Alica.

My social media is my full name on Facebook and Instagram and Snapchat.

Yeah. And I’ll, I’ll spell it out for the editors of the show. So they, they know how to pronounce that, but, um,

Uh, a whole lot of strength and conditioning like that page as well.

Is it just, is it [inaudible] strength and conditioning? Yes. Okay. We’ll put that in the show notes as well. Jerry, do you have, are you on social media? You don’t have Snapchat.

I can direct you to a sign on Both of information under the library and we’ll spirulina. And there’s also about the Corp corporation, the way it’s structured and some very nice real photographs.

Yeah. And can people find the, the clinical trials on that website as well?

Yes. And if they go to a, if they click on spirulina and click on the library, it’ll take you right to the clinical trials.

Yeah. Okay. I’ll put that in the show notes too. Cause I know some people are gonna want to do some, some research and check out those trials. So, um, anyways, thank you guys. Once again for coming. I really appreciate you guys coming on the fit fat fit experience podcast. Um, Aloha and thank you guys for your time and enjoy Hawaii for me.

Thank you. Drew it. Look forward to having you back.

Yeah, I will. And I will be back. I definitely miss it out there and freezing cold out here in Utah.

Oh, that’s too bad. All right guys. Have a good one.

Alright. Have a good one.


Thank you guys. Once again for tuning in today, I hope you enjoy today’s podcast and learn something about Aston, xanthan and spirulina, and maybe you’ll even start taking it. Don’t forget about the 40% off discount code by going to bio and using my code fit to fat, to fit, to get 40% off all their products, definitely check them out. Um, and I hope you enjoy today’s episode. Share it with someone that you think could benefit from this. And don’t forget to reach out to me on social media at fit to fat, to fit and go to my website, fit to fat, to have fit to fat, to and sign up for the newsletter. Um, if you haven’t already thank you guys so much for all your support and don’t forget to tune in next week for another great episode. Why I really appreciate you guys being part of this fit, fit, fit movement.


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